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FredRock's avatar

Maybe satire but not off the mark. I feel safer around Trans folks and drag queens than around any "pastor"

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Same, I adore drag queens, and fully support my trans sisters and brothers.

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KHolbekistan's avatar

It’s not wholly satirical, mores the pity.

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Linda Palmer's avatar

Your article is not satire. It's the truth. Baptists are the worst. 400 in a database of sexual predators. 31 pastors and church workers charged in months of June. Then there are missionaries who take depraved worldwide

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Lilith Helstrom's avatar

It’s satire because I wouldn’t actually try to pass laws to prevent them from using the restrooms and stuff because I respect human rights unlike transphobic Christians.

But it makes more sense to treat them like predators than to talk this way about trans women. I’m so tired of seeing people talk about trans women this way.

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Linda Palmer's avatar

I have receipts Lilith. Republican sex offender registry and those who enable it. Compiled by Cajsa Lilliehook. Up to 1400 now. Im not worried about them in the restroom unless they are abusing there too. I fully respect trans rights

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That old Scottish git.'s avatar

Satire works best when grounded in truth. And this is truth.

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Rosemary Siipola's avatar

Makes sense to me, too. 😎😎

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William Weaver's avatar

Satire? Seems pretty spot on to me. I mean, who are they always catching for sex crimes?

And these fuckers don't even pay taxes and yet they support a tyrant felon who wants to give tax breaks to the rich and fuck the poor.

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StillJootz's avatar

And let's not forget some of the insane things they say....like Donald Trump was sent by God, and we should follow him without question! And how many of them have now been arrested for molesting children and assaulting women?! I think many of them have mental illnesses, and I don't want THEM around our kids either! (Funny, but NOT funny!)

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Virgin Monk Boy's avatar

🔥 Lilith, this is divine drag—you slipped on their rhetoric like a priest’s stolen robe and made it scream its own absurdity. You held up their logic to the mirror and let it turn to ash.

If satire is the devil’s work, then call you Lucifer, because you just lit up the whole hypocrisy cathedral. 👏

—Virgin Monk Boy

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Jonathan Harvey's avatar

I have never known a pastor who was a predator on children, but I was deeply impressed back in the early 1970s by a Catholic Monsignor who turns out to have protected/sheltered another pastor who was a predator apparently acting out of a misguided belief that the latter would change his ways after being caught the first time. In 2005, Monsignor Walsh was identified in a grand jury investigation as having covered up the culprit and being liable as an accessory. He was forced to resign his pastoral position, though he could claim health problems as the reason. It was rather disconcerting to me.

EDIT: It is hard to resist the word play of talking about a man who preys on children while praying over children.

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Kent Anderson's avatar

Like I tell my comedian friend, satire in this day and age is more true than funny.

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Monc's avatar

What is that expression… truth in jest…. Hit this spot on.

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Denise Hall's avatar

I'm trying to understand this as satire but NOT ALL pastors are included. My son-in-law is a pastor ( he was a youth pastor for 11years and now ordained as a lead pastor for over a year). A wonderful man and husband and father of three children - one little girl is a survivor of a rare birth disorder called trisomy 18- google this - she's 10 and a half years old and was said to not survive infancy!!). And he loves his church family as well. Sometimes people are called by God Almighty to preach and teach HIS Words and my son-in-law is a true example of the love of God and a reflection of who Jesus is in this world. Satire or not - it's the inclusive sound of the article itself that hurts my heart ❤️. My wonderful son-in-law is truly a man of God. And I still love to read your articles - just not this one.

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Lilith Helstrom's avatar

I can tell you have zero understanding of what satire is. Because you seem nice, I’m going to try to explain it to you, even though this will probably be a mistake.

Satire is a form of essay writing that you should have been taught in school. Specifically, most people who know what it is read “A Modest Proposal” By Jonathan Swift, an essay written in the 1700’s.

In “A Modest Proposal,” Jonathan Swift insisted that the solution to society’s problems at the time is that they should all start eating Irish women’s babies. He said babies were delicious and talked about recipes on how to cook them and listed reasons why being a cannibal with them is perfectly rational.

He wrote this because people were being exceedingly cruel and unsympathetic towards poor Irish people and everyone was ignoring pleas to help them and calling it rational to be mean to them.

So instead of pleading with them more, he wrote his essay, sarcastically and ironically telling them that to be even more cruel to them by eating their babies as a solution to society’s problems.

The point wasn’t him wanting to actually eat babies. The point was to shock everyone so hard with this ridiculous suggestion that he was calling a “modest” proposal, even though it was extreme, that they realize through his use of shocking irony that what they have been doing is cruel. It’s to shock them into stopping.

Do you get it?

I have used this kind of irony many times in my writing. I’ve written a lot of satire.

In this article, I wrote about pastors because they are well respected in our society. No one would ever think of taking away all their human rights or bullying them into killing themselves because they are pastors.

Yet people use this language every day with trans women.

My satirical point is that even though it is much more likely that a Pastor would turn out to be a sexual predator than a trans woman, we, as a society, respect their human rights and do not talk to them like this. It seems absurd to us.

So shouldn’t it also seem even more absurd to talk about trans women this way?

It’s not a plea to harass pastors or say they are truly all these things, it’s to use the shock value of calling them all it, to show how horrible it is to do so with trans women as well.

Satire is supposed to make an absurd point, like that every pastor is a predator, when they clearly aren’t. Not a rational one, like saying only some pastors are predators.

I’m not sure you’ll still get it even after this explanation, but I do also sometimes condemn (for real) evangelical, American, conservative Christianity, in which I was abused a lot. So maybe you were destined to hate my writing anyway.

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Fiona Grayson's avatar

Love this.

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